Big effing discussion

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Today Doinky who is now playing the Mithrandir account more than me reporting Ganondorf for breaking a rule.
It's a simple rule and is overlooked by many players even administors.
But it is there and players should have to follow the rules just because you have some rights within the game does not mean you're deducted from the rules of the game, the. Now this is mainly ban discussion so someone will have to ban me, perma ban me do what ever the heck you like.

This server is so full of bullshit. And I can't take anymore of this crap. And I do hope no one deletes this topic, ban me whatever but do not delete the topic, this is a disussion that has to be made.

Ganondorf was banned for sitting an account and removing the troops from the account allowing others to noble those villages. It's a rule commonly known as gifting villages. If one is to break this rule on .net all players involved lose villages to the amount of villages taken and are banned and maybe not even unbanned for this, depends on how well you do your appeal.

Now I have had several players blaming this ban upon Ganodorf on me. Truth is, I haven't been online today, I've been in a serious meeting at my college on what I am going to do next year, as my plan was to move to a town called Grimstad, indeed in your home country and I had to sugn forms and such about this option. This meeting taking two to three hours long. When it had finished I logged into msn to talk to a friend of mine known as Jordan who is on the same course as me. However I was pulled into a conversation involving Way-Way and Doinky. The conversation went as followed

Session Start: 04 March 2009

* Matt Doyle (doyleshaz@hotmail.com)
* Steinar (Waylander) (gakgak_2@hotmail.com)

(12:02) Matt Doyle: hi
(12:02) Matt Doyle: i sent in ticket on v2
(12:02) Matt Doyle: can you answer it when you have time please
(12:02) Way-way: hm
(12:02) Way-way: what is it about?
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(12:03) Matt Doyle: its about gandolf..the best player
(12:03) Matt Doyle: breaking a rule
(12:03) Matt Doyle: which should get him a perma ban
(12:03) Way-way: what rule?
(12:03) lukeholmes@lukeh: Whats up? :S
(12:03) Matt Doyle: the one about gifting villages
(12:03) Matt Doyle: moving troops out
(12:03) Matt Doyle: and letting people noble them
(12:03) lukeholmes@lukeh: Oh yeah dont get me involved
(12:04) Way-way: to give a village away to another player?
(12:04) Matt Doyle: yer
(12:04) Matt Doyle: he's moving troops out
(12:04) Matt Doyle: and letting people noble them
(12:05) Way-way: dont see the illegal thing with it really..
(12:05) Matt Doyle: it us
(12:05) Matt Doyle: is*
(12:05) Way-way: what rule?
(12:05) Matt Doyle: its against the rules for a sitter to gift villages
(12:06) Way-way: sitter yes
(12:06) Way-way: but you have not mentioned sitters yet
(12:06) Matt Doyle: yes..he is sitting and gifting them
(12:06) Matt Doyle: when you read ticket you will see

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(12:07) Matt Doyle: si he will get perma ban for it ??

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(12:09) Matt Doyle: si he will get perma ban for it ??

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(12:09) lukeholmes@lukeh: :|
(12:09) Matt Doyle: so he will get perma ban for it ??

(12:09) Matt Doyle: will he get baned for it ?
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Session Start: 04 March 2009

* Matt Doyle (doyleshaz@hotmail.com)
* Steinar (Waylander) (gakgak_2@hotmail.com)

(12:27) Matt Doyle: you banned him
(12:27) Matt Doyle: is it perma ?
(12:28) Way-way: read your ticket n00b
(12:29) Matt Doyle: haha
(12:29) Matt Doyle: well i know he is banned
(12:29) Way-way: yes
(12:29) Way-way: and that is all you need to know
(12:29) Matt Doyle: ok

Now for those who are blaming me, rethink, as you're acting like a frigging child. I won't mention any names as even if they now hate me for something I haven't done I still respect and treat you like a friend. In fact, I even got some real effed up mails, insulting me beyond belief. I have no friends, I should fuck off, etc.
Now most of you know I'm a little heartless at time to those of you who try to stand up to me, and I do not show any respect for most of you, as to be honest, why should I? You've done nothing to gain respect from my view. We're all just sad little people in a cyber world, we all wanna be the next Hitle and whatever ruling the world. It's a game, there is no effing need to get as personal as one member from Elite did so on me, and I thought this player was actually a real darn good friend, yet this player obviously refused to look it up correctly and if this player did so, they'd know this had nothing, I repeat, NOTHING to do with me. Doinky is a bitch we all know, more than half of you don't like him but I've known him longer than any other you and if you're going to resent him for reporting a rule (well it seems to be me you're all hating on) This server should be closed down due to it being done by the team. I've spoken to innogames and we've decided the team here is now called the "kindergarden" team. The mods do not fully know the rules so how can you ban a player, any player for breaking a rule when you yourself do not follow the rules or know them. I can name three mods who have broken rules on this server and I never reported them however I told them what their doing is against the rules.

I spoke to Maestro who is the community manager of the Danish server. And well...

[16:12:46] Michael says: yup, i know - Me and Nino talked about this many times, actualy Innogames would love to change the entire team, but it's not that easy.... But the NO team is beeing spoken about as "the kindergarden"
[16:18:10] Luke Holmes says: I am so pissed off people are blaming me for something I havent done, I was in a meeting when this was kicking off about what I am doing next year in college as I was going to move to Grimstad in norway, I sign on and get all this rubbish. :/
[16:20:09] Michael says: yup, as I just said, kindergarden - you are maybe one of the best players on .no, so maybe you should find time to find another and maybe more adult world - but there is another problem with that, I don't know where to find that :S

I've played this game for nearly four years now and let me tell you some rules obviously you players need to know.

It is forbidden to sit an account and remove the troops from the sat account so another player can noble the villages.

It is forbidden to know any password to an account that does not belong to you.

If a player joins a world and does so to sit another account and keep it as his main while building his own account up is classed as multi and is against the rules.

Why not learn the effing rules before you do such? Most of you understand English, Danish, Swedish, right? Read their rules, they all apply here as their basic innogames rules set from Die Staemme over six years ago and they will not be changed.

Well, here is somethings...


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[16:12:46] Michael says: yup, i know - Me and Nino talked about this many times, actualy Innogames would love to change the entire team, but it's not that easy.... But the NO team is beeing spoken about as "the kindergarden"

[16:20:09] Michael says: yup, as I just said, kindergarden - you are maybe one of the best players on .no, so maybe you should find time to find another and maybe more adult world - but there is another problem with that, I don't know where to find that :S

So yeah, since I don't have any friends here. No one likes me. I'm leaving this suken ship and off. I've wated myself playing this game, learning all there is to know so before I fuck off outta here....

Glitter - Beautiful young lady. I'm always impressed with what you have to say. I've learned a lot from playing with you. You got some seriously mad skills. No joke. We started out as enemies, I always loved reading our posts on the forum when we were enemies then to look at the friendship grown, so fucking amazing it's outstanding. When I left V2 back in the beginning. Some time after the Danish server opened, and I wad called into play it by Doinky and Two Hit KO. Then Two Hit KO said he invited you to play, I was seriously not going to play because of this. But I did. We didn't even talk till a disussion came up about Two Hit KO... Then we talked a lot and a lot more. You're a great friends and an amazing person, if only I knew you in real life... Paaaaaaaaaaaaaarty tiiiiiiiiime.

Doinky - You're a pain in the ass at times and I seem to off lost friendship with others due to you, but ah well, shit happens right?

Ganondorf - I am not the next effing Hitler, I have never had a plan on attacking you. I have never said a bad word about you to Doinky or Two Hit KO. You seem to always be paranoid about me, ah well, I don't care so much.

Xano - You're drive me up the frigging wall. There is two sides to you right? How come I never saw the fun side? All I got was the spreaded rumours you did behind my back, deleting my posts and topics, and telling people I hacked them. Bah, just annoying.

Diantus - You're just like Xano, you think I don't know what you say? You're so wrong babe. Oh and for the record, I have never tried hacking you, you thinke you're worth me doing five years in side? Haha, you ain't that special, darling.

Ex-Con - How the heck did you become a mod? Haha, you spammed up the forum and stuff, hehe, well congratulations.

Thore - You insulted me too, back in the Bol forum. Jeez, whatever, water under the bridge, take care dude, I love yah. <3

Spookie - AAAAAAAAH, thanks for all your help dude. <3

Kathy/Anto - You was there for me when I was mixed up with my emotions I didn't know if I was coming or going and one of you knew I actually even tried to take an overdose, however I failed, thanks for being there when no one else was.

Grimlock - 2+4x5+13+65-12x34 = ...

Aveng - Fuck you.





If I missed anyone out, sorry people you know I love you. <333

 

[zcztig]

3) Kontovakt

Mens en spiller kontositter en annen spiller, er ingen samspill (se §2) lov mellom noen kontoer som er styrt på kontositterens internett-tilkobling. Dette gjelder alle kontoer, som er kontosatt av spillere på denne tilkoblingen. Det er også forbudt å hjelpe den samme spilleren.
Alle samspill er forbudt inntil 24 timer etter kontositter modusen har blitt avsluttet.
Eksempeler:
Det er tillat å angripe og erobre landsbyer med kontoen du vokter.
Det er forbudt å forsyne andre kontoer på din internett tilkobling med en konto som du vokter.
Det er forbudt for en spiller på din internett tilkobling å angripe kontoen du vokter.
Det forbudt å støtte den samme spilleren med din egen konto og kontoen du vokter.
Det er tillat å angripe to spillere fra den samme stammen med din egen konto, og kontoen du vokter.
Det er forbudt å bruke kontoen du vokter til å skrive til en annen spiller for å sjekke om denne spilleren er online.


Doesn´t say anything about "gifting" villages here!

 

[zelesar]

This is the closest thing I can find:

"Det er ikke lov å selge, kjøpe eller tilby kontoer, landsbyer eller ressurser"

 

[DeletedUser]

3) Kontovakt

Mens en spiller kontositter en annen spiller, er ingen samspill (se §2) lov mellom noen kontoer som er styrt på kontositterens internett-tilkobling. Dette gjelder alle kontoer, som er kontosatt av spillere på denne tilkoblingen. Det er også forbudt å hjelpe den samme spilleren.
Alle samspill er forbudt inntil 24 timer etter kontositter modusen har blitt avsluttet.
Eksempeler:
Det er tillat å angripe og erobre landsbyer med kontoen du vokter.
Det er forbudt å forsyne andre kontoer på din internett tilkobling med en konto som du vokter.
Det er forbudt for en spiller på din internett tilkobling å angripe kontoen du vokter.
Det forbudt å støtte den samme spilleren med din egen konto og kontoen du vokter.
Det er tillat å angripe to spillere fra den samme stammen med din egen konto, og kontoen du vokter.
Det er forbudt å bruke kontoen du vokter til å skrive til en annen spiller for å sjekke om denne spilleren er online.


Doesn´t say anything about "gifting" villages here!

Obviously someone didn't read the entire topic. I have said the rules here have not been explained that was DosX's fault, maybe we should call him in since he messed up this entire server.

 

[DeletedUser]

This is Doinky btw..The stupid mods keep banning all my accounts..most of the time for no reason..

Its sad to see you quit One Hit KO

It was me who got Ganondorf banned..not one hit ko..

I also agree about the bullshit on this world..the mods ban and infract for the fun of it..they abuse there powers and dont have a clue how to mod the game..

I think the norwegian mod team should be sacked..or they should just quit..


Doinky..

 

[zcztig]

Obviously someone didn't read the entire topic. I have said the rules here have not been explained that was DosX's fault, maybe we should call him in since he messed up this entire server.

Well, if it´s DosX´s fault, how come ganondorf gets the blame?

 

[zcztig]

This is Doinky btw..The stupid mods keep banning all my accounts..most of the time for no reason..

Its sad to see you quit One Hit KO

It was me who got Ganondorf banned..not one hit ko..

I also agree about the bullshit on this world..the mods ban and infract for the fun of it..they abuse there powers and dont have a clue how to mod the game..

I think the norwegian mod team should be sacked..or they should just quit..


Doinky..

Well, that´s just sad!

 

[DeletedUser]

Well, if it´s DosX´s fault, how come ganondorf gets the blame?

I have nothing to do with the banning of Ganondorf, I was just the idiot who got blamed for it. However I have said many times to the mods, to players, in the forums and on this forum, it's against the rules and on fact, Glitter has also posted it somewhere.

 

[zcztig]

It´s not against the rules on this server!

If the rules have been misinterpeted by DosX, the players on the server can´t be expected to take the fall!

If what you say is correct, the rules must be retranslated and republished before they can take effect!

(btw: I haven´t blamed anyone for anything. But beeing banned because of a misinterpetation of rules, isn´t fair)

 

[DeletedUser]

Well, that´s just sad!

whats sad?

 

[zcztig]

whats sad?

All this hostility you´ve got built up inside of you!

 

[DeletedUser]

All this hostility you´ve got built up inside of you!

im just saying what i think..
theres nothing wrong with posting your opinions

 

[zcztig]

the mods ban and infract for the fun of it..they abuse there powers and dont have a clue how to mod the game..

This is not an opinion, but a statement as if it were a fact.

I´m a mod as well, and I can assure you that I´ve never given an infration "just for kicks".

I´m all about having a good time, and writing funny stuff.

But then again, not everone here finds porno, voilence etc amusing, and that´s why these things are beeing removed. So that as many people as possible can have a good time.

Isn´t that what we all should be about?

 

[DeletedUser]

This is not an opinion, but a statement as if it were a fact.

I´m a mod as well, and I can assure you that I´ve never given an infration "just for kicks".

I´m all about having a good time, and writing funny stuff.

But then again, not everone here finds porno, voilence etc amusing, and that´s why these things are beeing removed. So that as many people as possible can have a good time.

Isn´t that what we all should be about?

lol..
i was banned for posting porn...but i have never been violent on here..
yes that bit was more of a statement..but some bits had my opinions in the post

 

[zcztig]

Sure, just proving you wrong

I still don´t think it´s right that Ganondorf is banned. That´s my opinion!

 

[DeletedUser]

Sure, just proving you wrong

I still don´t think it´s right that Ganondorf is banned. That´s my opinion!

he has been unbanned now..
but..gifting villages on a sat account is against the rules..the player giving them away should be banned..and punished very hard..either by having villages taken of him..or him being perma banned..

they are the rules..
but lets think about this..this is .no..the mods dont know the rules..so no surprise that he is unbanned..
oo..and isnt ganondolf a mod ??
does this look suspicious ??
mod..being banned for breaking a rule..then unbanned..

he is a mod..he should know the rules..but he dont..and he broke them..then gets away with it..wtf??

oo..and how did ganondolf know i reported him??
well from what ive heard wayway told him..which is against the mods rules..

 

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he has been unbanned now..
but..gifting villages on a sat account is against the rules..the player giving them away should be banned..and punished very hard..either by having villages taken of him..or him being perma banned..

they are the rules..
but lets think about this..this is .no..the mods dont know the rules..so no surprise that he is unbanned..
oo..and isnt ganondolf a mod ??
does this look suspicious ??
mod..being banned for breaking a rule..then unbanned..

he is a mod..he should know the rules..but he dont..and he broke them..then gets away with it..wtf??

oo..and how did ganondolf know i reported him??
well from what ive heard wayway told him..which is against the mods rules..

He had a coffee break.

 

[zcztig]

The Norwegian mods know the rules stated on the norwegian gamesite: www.tribalwars.no

These are the only rules they are obligated to know.

And, ye - Ganondorf is a forum-mod, and as previously stated there has been no violation of the rules stated here: NORWEGIAN RULES. Therefore I find nothing suspicious about him beeing unbanned.

It has now come to our attention, that these rules are not the same that is applied to other TribalWars-servers: As a result of this we´ll have to publish a new set of rules.

More info about this to come in another thread at the right time..

Peace out!